Experimental Aircraft Association - Chapter 765 - Kingman, 
Arizona

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                                                                                                                    4560 Flightline Drive

EAA Chapter 765                 November 2006                  Kingman, AZ 86401

 

 

Regular EAA Chapter 765 meetings are held from 7 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. on the second Tuesday each month at the EAA Hangar on Flightline Drive at the Kingman Airport.
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Chapter 765 Officers

President            John Pool                            692-8026

Vice-President     Harry May                         718-5896

Treasurer            Scott Brackett                     753-9075

Secretary             Dennis Macklin                692-5553



 

Directors

T. W. Aronson                                      681-4980
  Bob Brackett                                        757-3785

Ed Covington                                       753-3060
  Julia Downie                                         757-8477
  Gene Wolff                                            757-3870

 

Other Positions

 

Hangar Coordinator    Gene Wolff            757-3870

Newsletter Editor       Julia Downie           757-8477
Technical Advisor       King Sharpe           757-7565

Young Eagle Coord.    Scott Brackett        753-9075

 

 

http://www.eaa765.org

 

Visit our chapter website, and then make some contribution to it.  Mike has done an outstanding job. Please send him photos, personal histories and anything else you would like to see posted.

 

 Everyone must be exceedingly busy, including me.  There are no Minutes, President’s Message or Around the Airport this month.

 

So instead, this is mainly a plea for you to come to the November 14th meeting and

              VOTE

Yes, our Chapter election day is the same day as the mid-term elections.  So you get to vote twice on election day.

 

Following are more recollections from Bill Aronson. What a rich life in aviation he experienced.

 

Also at the end of the newsletter are photos from Copperstate submitted by Rick Warren, who advises he will have more photos at the meeting.

 


Recollections of T.W. Bill Aronson

 

CG Taylor companies: Products Design & Saturn Engineering; Oxnard & Camarillo, Ca.

 

TW worked at Product Design during the period when the shop was engaged in:

Lee Mansdorf Grumman Widgeon engine conversions ... 200 HP Rangers were replaced with 300 HP Lycoming engines

Convair 240s modified with JATO bottles added to the tail section per STC.

Myers 200 aerodynamic modifications

North American OV-10 conversion to turbo prop engines 1960 $ = 50K/ plane!

CG-11 design development

Saturn Meteor design refinements

Jack Gilberty Volaire design clean-up modifications

 

The last installment introduced the CG-11 and Saturn Meteor aircraft. 

 

In this installment TW discusses some of the design details of those two designs, their last known status and relates the origin of North American Rockwell’s design for the light training aircraft market.

 

Cg-11

The design configuration predates EZ designs by 10 years

Tail first canard & rudder design.

Fiberglass sandwich skins.

Rear engine/ prop pusher ... articulated (up/ down) ducted fan

Boundary layer control on wing including control surfaces

Main wing swept back 25 degrees

Fixed landing gear

F/G structure

Skins were 2 layers of 10 oz. cloth with layer of mat between ... approx 1/8 inch plus thickness.

Sub structure was 2024 T3 aluminum: wing & fuselage keel sections

Epoxy bonded skin/ substructures: fuselage, wings & control surfaces

Molds were plaster of paris coated with primer, liberally coated with carnauba wax.  Five copies were made from each mold!!

TW plus 4 others completed all molds in approx 4 months

Design numbers

Main wing span was approx. 21 to 22 feet; aileron span was approx. 4 foot and flap span was approx. 5 foot.

Wing chords were 25 inches at the tip & 60+ inches at the root

Fuselage width was 36 inches

Design weight 390 lbs ... actual weight was 410 lbs

Air foil sections on main wing were NACA 23009 at the tip & 23015 for the root

Wings had no wash out, reflex or dihedral.

Ducted fan/ engine pivoted 15 degrees up & down on thrust CL to stops with a hydraulic hand pump

Powered by a two cylinder Franklin engine of 60 HP; vibration required use of a torsion damper

Fan duct F/G construction: tapered span, tapered chord, approx 24 inches @ bottom “root” to 12 inches @ joined “tip”

Boundary layer suction source was from  the LP region of the ducted fan

Boundary layer control @ wing tips was for drag reduction & @ the ailerons was for improved control effectiveness @ lower speeds.

 

The CG-11 design did not progress beyond the high speed taxi and ground effect flight testing.  Some low speed stability issues were still to be resolved.  The aircraft’s sponsor lost interest ... it is believed that somewhere in California this revolutionary aircraft sits in storage.  Further design details are available from the patent office since six patents were issued relative to features of this design.

 

Saturn Meteor

 

Another photo of the Meteor from the rear quarter is attached.

 

Note: fiberglass was used for the nose cone, fuselage (to tail cone) and engine cowlings.  This is an example of the earliest use of F/G for major a/c components ... September 1961.

 

In the previous article on this aircraft, the flight test problems with tail control flutter at speeds above 150 MPH were discussed.  TW was involved in the sheet metal work repairing the tail cone and modifying the rudder.  The work took about 2 months to complete.

 

A Japanese company gained controlling interest in the Meteor project, decided not to pursue a type certificate and sold it to an individual.  The aircraft was subsequently flown to Chino and disassembled.  The instruments, props and engines were sold.  The last word on the project was that it was being completely restored and was almost complete.

 

 

 

 

Gilberty Volaire

 

 

The photo of the Volaire reminds one of an early Cessna 150 with Aeronca main gear.

 

 Jack Gilberty brought this project to the PD shop for completion and wanted parts to build 100 a/c.

Front & rear windshields mounted almost vertical (high drag)

Aileron flutter experienced @ approx. 103 MPH

Cantilever main gear and improved nose gear/ engine mount

All these areas were resolved by Product Designs.

 

As Paul Harvey would say: “Now the rest of the story!”   The Gilberty Volaire was type certified and the production rights were purchased by North American Rockwell.  The Volaire became the Aero Commander 100 and eventually the Lark 180.

 

Random Thoughts

 

CG Taylor used the NACA 23012 wing section on the Taylorcraft.  This was the principal reason that the T-craft was 20 MPH faster than a Cub which used the USA 35 section.  Also, clip-wing Cubs perform better inverted with a T-craft wing section (it’s more symmetric). 

 

In the mid sixties, a 3,500 foot by 35 foot wide asphalt runway with an adjacent 2,000 foot by 20 foot taxi-way cost around $70,000.  This was not “down town” prices ... this was in the high dessert boon docks!       

 

   



 


Pictures taken by Rick Warren at Copperstate, 2006

 

 

 

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EAA Chapter 765                 November 2006                  Kingman, AZ 86401

 

 

Regular EAA Chapter 765 meetings are held from 7 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. on the second Tuesday each month at the EAA Hangar on Flightline Drive at the Kingman Airport.
____________________________________________________

Chapter 765 Officers

President              John Pool                         692-8026

Vice-President     Harry May                        718-5896

Treasurer              Scott Brackett                  753-9075

Secretary             Dennis Macklin                692-5553



 

Directors

T. W. Aronson                                     681-4980
  Bob Brackett                                        757-3785

Ed Covington                                       753-3060
  Julia Downie                                         757-8477
  Gene Wolff                                            757-3870

 

Other Positions

 

Hangar Coordinator    Gene Wolff            757-3870

Newsletter Editor       Julia Downie           757-8477
Technical Advisor       King Sharpe           757-7565
 Website Coordinator  Mike Finnegan        692-4371

Young Eagle Coord.    Scott Brackett        753-9075

 

 

http://www.eaa765.org

 

Visit our chapter website, and then make some contribution to it.  Mike has done an outstanding job. Please send him photos, personal histories and anything else you would like to see posted.

 

 

President’s Message:

           

            Our election of Officers and Directors will take place at this month’s meeting and we need all of our members present to insure everyone has an opportunity to participate in the election of those whom you want to direct and lead Chapter 765.  Call King Sharp at 897-1388 or myself at 692-8026 if you want your name on the ballot for an office.

 

            Our End-Of-The-Year Potluck Dinner will be Dec. 12th  at 6:30 PM at our hangar.  Please plan to attend w/ your family and individuals interested in learning about EAA.  Our chapter will provide the following for the potluck:  meat, coffee, soda, paper plates, utensils, and cups.  Bring your favorite dish to share!!!

 

John Pool

 

 


 

CHAPTER 765 ELECTIONS

OFFICES FOR 12/2006 THRU 11/2007

NOVEMBER 14TH. 2006

 

 

NOVEMBER 14, 2006

 

EAA 765 SLATE OF  NOMINEES:

 

            President:                   John Pool                               

 

            Vice-President:          Gary Rucker                         

 

            Secretary:                   Dennis Macklin                    

 

            Treasure:                    Scott Brackett                       

 

            Director:                     Bob Brackett                         

 

            Director:                     TW Aronson                          

 

            Director:                     Julia Downie                          

 

            Director:                     Gene Wolf                             

 

            Director:                     Ed Covington                         

 

            Director:                     George “King” Sharp          

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

EAA Chapter 765

CHAPTER MEMBERSHIP MEETING

Meeting Minutes

 

 

Date: Tuesday, Oct. 10th, 2006

Time: 7:00 pm

Place: EAA Hanger

 

Present: 

Julia Downie, Paul George, Dennis Macklin, Rick Warren, Gene Wolff, Malcolm Hart, George Chappell, Gary Rucker, Dennis Gustafson, Judy Sharp and King Sharp.

  

Meeting called to order:

            Dennis Macklin, Secretary

 

Secretary’s Report:

            Motion to accept report by Rick Warren, seconded by Paul George and carried by members.

 

Treasurer’s Report:

No treasurer’s report. Accepted yearly membership dues from Dennis Gustafson and Gary Rucker.

 

Old Business:

Discussed air show; attendance was good and was a success. We had our EAA display with Rick’s trailer.

 

Motion was made by Paul George to keep current chapter officers but open to nominations at next meeting. Seconded by Gene Wolff and carried by membership. Gary Rucker expressed a willingness to run for vice president.

 

Talked about successful Young Eagles day and need to tailor the different education ‘stations’ to the scout merit badge requirements.

 

New Business:

There will be a memorial service Saturday Oct. 21st at 10:00 am in Brackett’s hanger for Boyd Harford Jr.  There will also be a memorial service for Vivian Feagins to be held in November.

 

We discussed the importance of maintaining our presence at next year’s air show and plan to do so.

 

The Copperstate Fly in will be Oct. 28th and 29th at Casa Grande airport. Plan to attend.

 

Rick Warren discussed a “water jet” airplane that we can get plans for and build for student education to enhance interest in aviation.

 

Adjourn:

Motion to adjourn made by King Sharp, seconded by Gene Wolff; carried by membership. We adjourned at 7:32 p.m.

               

 

 POT-LUCK DINNER

 

TUESDAY, DECEMBER 12TH, 2006

6:30 P.M.

 

DON DOWNIE MEMORIAL HANGAR

4560 Flightline Drive

Kingman Airport

 

 

!! YEAR-END MEMBERSHIP GET-TOGETHER !!

 

!!Bring the Family – Friends Welcome!!

 Bring A Dish ( Salad, Potatoes, Rolls, or Dessert) To Pass!!

Chapter 765 Will Provide Ham and Turkey   

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